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Poster: high flow Date: Dec 21, 2007 11:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

For some reason......GOP now looks like Ned Beatty in my mind's eye. LOL!

Squeal! Ghost of Ned! Squeal!

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Dec 21, 2007 12:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

Hey, asswipe, I now live in North Georgia--not far from where Ned took one for the team. I hear that theme sometimes late at night.

But I digress. I was going to buy Mr. Wolf the 2008 Chick Fil A calender, but his old lady would roll it up and smack him upside the head with it.

Of course, for those scottish shepherds:


The Sheep Child

Farm boys wild to couple
With anything with soft-wooded trees
With mounds of earth mounds
Of pine straw will keep themselves off
Animals by legends of their own:
In the hay-tunnel dark
And dung of barns, they will
Say I have heard tell

That in a museum in Atlanta
Way back in a corner somewhere
There's this thing that's only half
Sheep like a woolly baby
Pickled in alcohol because
Those things can't live his eyes
Are open but you can't stand to look
I heard from somebody who ...

But this is now almost all
Gone. The boys have taken
Their own true wives in the city,
The sheep are safe in the west hill
Pasture but we who were born there
Still are not sure. Are we,
Because we remember, remembered
In the terrible dust of museums?
Merely with his eyes, the sheep-child may
Be saying saying

I am here, in my father's house.
I who am half of your world, came deeply
To my mother in the long grass
Of the west pasture, where she stood like moonlight
Listening for foxes. It was something like love
From another world that seized her
From behind, and she gave, not Iifting her head
Out of dew, without ever looking, her best
Self to that great need. Turned loose, she dipped her face
Farther into the chill of the earth, and in a sound
Of sobbing of something stumbling
Away, began, as she must do,
To carry me. I woke, dying,

In the summer sun of the hillside, with my eyes
Far more than human. I saw for a blazing moment
The great grassy world from both sides,
Man and beast in the round of their need,
And the hill wind stirred in my wool,
My hoof and my hand clasped each other,
I ate my one meal
Of milk, and died
Staring. From dark grass I came straight

To my father's house, whose dust
Whirls up in the halls for no reason
When no one comes piling deep in a hellish mild corner,
And, through my immortal waters,
I meet the sun's grains eye
To eye, and they fail at my closet of glass.
Dead, I am most surely living
In the minds of farm boys: I am he who drives
Them like wolves from the hound bitch and calf
And from the chaste ewe in the wind.
They go into woods into bean fields they go
Deep into their known right hands. Dreaming of me,
They groan they wait they suffer
Themselves, they marry, they raise their kind.

-- James Dickey


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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 21, 2007 1:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

lmao!!! yeah, she probably would (and enjoy it too)

hey i just reread that poem the other day along with "reading genesis to a blind child" - pretty sure that is the title - i may be off a tad (no comments!!!)


i thought you would appreciate my anti-pig commentary. love your reply though - very excellent ;)

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Poster: Jerrob Hungar Date: Dec 21, 2007 10:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

'Small wheel turning by the fire and rod
Big wheel turning by the grace of God
Every time that wheel turn round
Bound to cover just a little more ground'

This is just like the old days before the flood - literally
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=107409

Btw Weren't those boys from Georgia?
:¬)

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Poster: high flow Date: Dec 21, 2007 2:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

Well since I have a 2 year old and a 5 year old, asswipe is often an accurate description.

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Poster: blacklakelight Date: Dec 21, 2007 3:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

Love James Dickey. "Cherrylog Road," "The Performance," "Falling," "The Firebomber" (?), and "Power and Light" are other favorites that come to mind. Hell, just get the Collected Poems, probably round up a copy on Alibris or the like for five bucks or so.

Dickey wrote ad copy to pay the bills for a while. Remember "Coke--The Real Thing?" Yep, that's our man.

ghostofpig: welcome to Georgia. Have you read any David Bottoms? If not, you might like it. Not stylistically similar to Dickey--in his words, he compressed whereas Dickey expanded-- but the two were friends, and Dickey was an early supporter. He's now our poet laureate, but don't let that stop you.

Edit: Thanks for the tip, lobster12, I'll give it a listen.

This post was modified by blacklakelight on 2007-12-21 23:46:32

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Dec 21, 2007 4:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

Welcome to Ga.? Thanks! But I've live here since 1979. I did my doctorate In Lit. (20th century american) at EMory where Dickey is a kind of icon (the drunkard!). I dated his niece for a few years (no sheep, she), and met him often over a bottle of whiskey.

I am aware of Mr. Bottoms--good stuff. You read any Seamus Heaney--Emory's adopten son?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 21, 2007 4:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

and no one remembers deacon lunchox....

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Poster: blacklakelight Date: Dec 21, 2007 8:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

Oh, mah bade.

For some reason I'd gotten the impression you were new to GA; only new to N. GA, maybe? I went to USC Columbia as an undergrad with hopes of taking a class with Dickey (actually I went chasing after a girl, but hey) only he wasn't teaching anymore. I studied with Bottoms when I came back, taught high school English a few years, now back at GSU doing various things, among them assistant fiction editor for Five Points, the journal Bottoms co-founded.



Haven't read any Seamus Heaney in a very long time (Salmon Rushdie, the Dali Lama--quite a roster of adopted sons at Emory. A student in the class I taught last summer had a long night over the whiskey bottle with him, though, and some funny stories to tell.

Are you the guy who saw the dead around New York in the early seventies? Handles get confusing around here.

Edit: bluedevil, sure I remember Deacon Lunchbox, and the Jody Grind. That was a sad day for Atlanta.

This post was modified by blacklakelight on 2007-12-22 04:04:53

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 21, 2007 9:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

Yea, went to the Jody Grind album release show not too many moons before that occurred. Very sad. Glad to see folks recall Deacon. He was close to a pal of mine, Kevn Kinney (who I consider among the most underrated singer/songwriters around).

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Poster: blacklakelight Date: Dec 22, 2007 3:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf


Underrated, and a hard working motherfucker.

"Stand up and fight for it" still gives me chills. Shit, I need to get that record again.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 22, 2007 4:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

He recently had throat surgery and sounds the best he has in years. Still workin' it - just played Warrne's x-mas jam and drivin is doing 4 shows at the end of the year.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Dec 22, 2007 6:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

Yeah, I'm the New Yorket who saw them from 1967-73. Sorry you missed Jimmy D. He was a hoot.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Dec 21, 2007 8:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

more and more interesting with every post

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Poster: amosearle Date: Dec 21, 2007 3:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mr. Wolf

I'm a Georgia man, or at least have lived here longer than anywhere else. I used to work in the North GA mountains, living as much or more outside without electricity as I did with. I miss the outdoor life, but that's a younger man's game. I could not afford to make that little money these days either. I still get up there to hike and paddle as time and the missus permit.

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